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the best way is giving somaliland UN recognition. then we should let somalis kill eachother more until another somaliland is created and seeks UN recognition. this cycle should be allowed to continue until somali speaking people are divided and living in 8 or 9 tiny countries

Believe it or not it's going to fail, it's modified TFG. It's designed to suit the interest of Despised Agame.

Ethiopia ousted sheik sharif when he ruled with little opposition. The al-shabab who declared jihad were weak and few then. Now Ethiopia returned back somalia to sheik sharif with those al-shabab who declared jihad on Ethiopia big and strong controling even the parlament seat.
Now you say Ethiopia has been very successful in expanding the threat against it at an enorous cost. Where is the logic????

It is true Ethiopia has achieved a lot over the last two years because of its intervention. The enemy that was yearning to start war is subdued if not defeated--at least they have turn their face 180 degree and are now swimming in eh Indian ocean instead of sweating it in the Ogaden desert, and have also like Gemeda said Ethiopia have successfully separated the moderates from the extremist in the UIC camp. Today Issayas Afeworki is left naked to support a known terrorist and that in itself is a win for Ethiopia. Ethiopia can use such glaring support to terrorist by the Issayas regime with the international community when the time comes for their support to tame the Issayas regime in Eritrea.
I also think the forces in Somalia who will work for a stable and peaceful Somalia will be encouraged by Sharif election. Ethiopia as well as the USA seems to like the choice. And my assumption is Somalia can be saved if money flows to that country to build the police and military to keep an eye on want-to-be terrorists copy cats. Ethiopia more than any time before has cemented its role in the horn and this is a testament to the new leadership in Addis. And glory to our Armed forces who made all this to happen also! Thank you.

Gemechu, We know for fact Woyane lost the war and got out from this mess. As face saving, US with puppet (Woyane) gave power for this man if it is going to work to their interest. The issue is the people of Somalia did not have a say for their choice and that is why it is not going to work. The new president is not genuine as he was in 2006. He is bribed to satisfy the interest of those who wants him to be there. The somalia problem is going to continue until the criminal Woynae thrown out.

The guy who was removed from power in 2006 is back at the top in Somalia with much stronger hand.

Who is responsible for the lives of ethiopian soldiers wasted in Somalia? Is the TPLF accountable for all the harm it is causing our country?

Tekebash Above,
Your writings tell explicitly that you are burned in and out, seeing the Somalia crisis coming to an end.
Yes the coming of this man to power, will definitely end up the Somalian anarchy and Isayas will fing no place to step on and carry out his terrorist acts. It is another big blow to the terrorist in a Asmara. Viv Meles, Viva EPRDF.

Hi Aiga,

I have a couple of points. First, I want to ask you why are you interested in Shabiya and Eritrea. I have always followed your posts on average at least not less 1/3 of your posts within a week or so deal with Eritrea. Why I though you are Ethiopians? Or you are etniopianised Eritreans, who always want good for Eritreans even at the expense of Ethiopia. That is exactly what TPLF did in its early days. Any way you should know we Ethiopians are following your focus and intentions by assessing the texts on your web sites.

Second, I have no idea if the Islamists were a real treat our sovereignty. This is because EPRDF is secretive and not transparent. But let me give the benefit of the doubt to the government. But still as a citizen I want to know what they did, what they lose and what they gain. They claimed success. Ok let it be. But what about we lost I mean the human lose. Why not EPRDF tell the human as well as material cost of the war to the Ethiopian ppl. This is against the constitution. Only when we have the data we can say it was a success or not. One need to do a cost/benefit analysis. So Aiga first provide the actual information, then we as citizens evaluate. Obviously, EPRDF is secretive. Hence, it is futile.

The mission in Somalia by our defense forces was indeed successful. In addition to what is listed above the mission

1) Effectively destroyed the bases for the likes of ONLF and OLF who were built over so many years with the help of Shabia

2) It enable Ethiopia to build a formidable intelligence network in Somalia that will be indispensable in foiling future threats on our sovereignty

3) It allowed the AU forces to come in so that the ownership of what ever troubles that ensue in somalia henceforth are no longer to Ethiopia

and much more that I'll not list because they are sensitive issues that may have implications to our national interest in the future.

Hammer, you are living in fantasy, don't assocaite me with Isayase. The fact is this is a government formed outside the country for the 3rd time. If it did not work for the first 2 how the 3rd one will be effective. Don't be emotional. History and facts should be your base for analysis. This is a cosmotic gov't and will not be successful. Be patient, if you are a stooge for Woyane then it is no use to respond for you. Because woyane does not reason with what they do. Woyane is always a short sighted group. You said I am burned in and out because the somali pople is going to live in peace. You are delusional, why do you think I benefit inocent people die for no reason. Your idiot prime minster to continue his existance in power became a puppet to invade and slaughter people. The blood of inocent people is not going be washed without a price. Lots of things happened in this world, a black president elected in USA. Don't forget Woyane will pay a price and disappear.

In this game the bigger loser of all is USA and ethiopia. ato meles zenaw interd somalia to eliminate eslamic court, nevertheless the outcome is creation of Alshebab /more extrimist and radical eslamic groupe/
Now both usa and ethiopian government working day and night to bring back eslamic court to rule somalia instead of Alshebab.
However this will never hapen, becouse Alshebab is more poweful now than before. Alshebab promissed to revange the blood of somali killed by ethiopian soldiers. the mission will be started in the region of tigrai not in Harerge/eastern front. Good luck and thx mister zenawi to bring our country under attack

One thing for suer Asmara will always support any thing that will distabilze the region from Djibuti to Somalia to Sudan. Just because their leader thinks he is geting back on Ethiopia or the west. What Ethiopia and the rest of the region can do is Elemenate Issayas so that the Eretreans and Somalis will have some peace and development. AS it stands now both Eretrea and Somalia have more Guns per a person than paecil and pen for their kids. I think and hope Sharfi will be inclucive thatn TFG and form the Government. As for Al shebab, that is a group that its days has passsed and eventulay vanish. One thing though tell Americans to stay away from this they usually make things worse that theya are

Aiga,

We know what the solution to the Horn of Africa. Thus running around the bush has not benefit except making the situation worse.

The main problem in the horn is Ethiopian occupation of Eritrean territories by force. Unless Ethiopia accepts the EEBC decision and withdraws its army there is will not be peace in the Horn.

At the center of the trouble is Ertra. It is with help of Ertra the jihadist got the military strength to defeat the feuding warlords and even to pose a series threat to Ethiopia.

I think for any lasting solution, the cause which is obivous should be tackled.

Simple: Shaibiya should go forover. Anything short of this, in my view, is just futile exercise.

Ethiopia`s benefit in intervening in Somalia can bee seen in different dimensions. Of course, Ethiopia has proved that it is the powerhouse of the region both millitarily and politically. However, Ethiopia has made grave mistake by staying there for un-necessary two years that incurred both human and financial costs to Ethiopia. Furthermore, Ethiopia`s presence in Somalia for two years had its own repurcussion such that our defence force good reputation was badly damaged by human right groups even for a possible implication to the international criminal court. In my view, it would have been better to withdraw from Somalia in the first 2-3 months. Any way, Sherif might be better than Aweys. But still people like Sherif are in day-dreaming of greater Somalia. The only way for Ethiopia to keep its strategic and long term interest is through recognizing SOMALILAND.

dear Aiga, do you guys filter what is writen on your web? I don't think so, it is good to have a reasenable argument, but those like tekebash and hamer are not reading or posting worth on this respectable web. they are just dammies with no moral value on them left. it is good to disagree, but we don't have to be haters lke these two.
thanks

Unless and until Ethiopia gains an outlet to the sea through its rightful port of ASSAB, there will never ever be stability in the Horn of Africa.

TPLF made the greatst ang gravest mistake in 1993.

Ethiopia has made it’s effort to stabilize Somalia and to defend it’s own territory from jihad.
Now , Ethiopian can not stay more than two years .It’s good decision . After this time we have to be wise not to make a mistake. It’s wise not to interfere to much in neighboring country’s issue. Since we have our own problem more than Somalia’s problem. So it is better to defend our country within our territory . If any country comes to attack us we can defend ourselves , thanks to our strong military force.This is my humble suggestion since I don’t want to see my country’s military to die in Somalia.

Thank’s Aiga for your best work . Keep up the GOOD JOB

I think it is time to face the truth. Although the EEBC decison was not infavour of Ethiopia it has the legal obligation to accept it. Ethiopia can not blame Isayas taking Djibout's land while it is occupying land that lagally belongs to Eritrea. The western diplomatic support is great. However in the end our neighbours are Eritreans. How cruel and murdere he might be when it comes to the EEBC decision he is on the right side and we are on the wrong side. As to those who say Ethiopia should eliminate Shaebia I call them dreamers. If it is possible it would have been easier to eliminate Alshebab than Isayas.

I want to see reasonable analysis based on the rule of law and desire for peace than nationalistic propoganda based on ignorance.

Ethiopia has shown its military capability to the world specially to to its enemies , even to its friends and detractors in the west and in UN, who could not do half as much during the 90's chaotic Somalia, where there were less armed somali groups and no international Jihadists compared to the years 2006-9 , when Ethiopia engaged and defeated the well-armed ICU, shabia , ONLF, OLF and may other global Jihadists in merely 2-weeks-long Ethiopian offensive.

Having said what I said above, I advise the Meles government not to tolerate shabia any longer, but instead, Ethiopia has to plan on how to finish off the Northern cance, Shabia, in the very near future.
It will be a great shame if not obscenely grotesque if Melese Zenawi hands his power to another Ethiopian even when he/she may be from the EPRDF itself while, at the same time,the psycho Isayas is still in power up in the North.Can you guys imagine how much the sick Eritreans will brag about this scenario taking place ? Isayas dreams to outlive 3 Ethiopian leaders and, therefore, I suggrest to Meles and EPRDF to be very careful not to give Isayas that kind of chance.
Meles has to outlive Isayas by any means. That is the best option for Ethiopia as a whole.

Thanks!

"Meles has to outlive Isayas by any means". How?
Isayas lived 30 years in the bush. Longer than Melese did. Isayas has a country and a strong army than he had in 2000. Isayas has loyal generals who are controlling every life of the country. Isayas has arms and a pool of youth that could defend not him but the country. So what are you talking about?

Even if a new government comes in Eritrea how stable is going to be? Do you want another unstable country in the north? Think about, does this equal to the dusty village of badme? Badme is a cause for Isayas than a benefit. Thus isn't easier to eliminate the cause. Ethiopian soldiers were the cause for Somali Jihadists to rally the youth behind. Now they are shouting at each other. The same will happen to Eritreans if the boarder is demarcated. If not the cause continues and it will oulive us for ever. I don't see any peace between Ethiopia and Eritrea while they are engaged in border war.

I am not a hater. neither I am a blind lover. For me Both hater and blind lover are dnagerious position in current ethiopian politics.

Let us be faor haters! Let us see our defence force as Ethiopian. And give due respect and demonstrate a sense of belonging.

On the other hand. Blind supporters who always rationalise what ever TPLF or EPRDF did you are 'ke ej ayshal doma" As the Amharic saying goes! Be fair to love as well as question and challenge what has happened in the name of puplic interest. To claim that EPRDF is always good as as a dngerious as to say it is only tigre-rule.

Let us be resonable on both sides!

It is nonsense for us, it will be better for tyranny government to accomplish it’s own shameful act to a better way forward!
Yours

in a matter of sense I always obserb some e moral ideas.but the thing our country requered from us is not crimed each other.it requered unity to the eradicattion of poverty and corruption to sustain good governans.The way to acheave this we should respect and emplement rule of law under developmental democratic govern ment

Hello! I am happy that Ethiopia getts back ater her full victory over the exterimists of jihad and over all over the dictatorial leader of Esayas! who dreams as abig man!
Thanks!

Some of us live in a dream land. As much as I hate Isayas Afwerk he is 100% right when it comes to the border decision no matter how we hate the decision. There is no military solution for the conflict as we can see from Somalia. Weather we like it or not the border decision is final and binding. It was not implemmented because George Bush was on our side. Sooner or later the pressure will mount and we will be forced to give the land. It is better we find a solution by respecting and abiding the ruling and work towards a lasting solution including the possiblity of getting a free port service in negotiation rather than payng a whooping 700 million dollars to tiny Djibouti. We should stop fooling ourselves and get out of the box. Weather we like it or not Eritreans are our brothers and we can not choose thier leaders for them. May be we can rob Isayas an excuse called Bademe to stay in power. The Somalia adveture is a big lesson for us to learn that THERE IS NO MILLITARY SOLUTION FOR ANY DISAGREEMENT IN THE HORN OF AFRICA. EVEN AMERICA IS WAKING UP AND NEGOTIATING WITH IRAN AND SYRIA.

what the hell are you talking about? why do you obsess with Somalia? please leave them alone.

By taking the action it took regarding Somalia, Ethiopia has proved to the world that it is a peace loveing nation and a nation that doesn't want others' property and is strong enough to defend its own. Shabiya and its lackies have also certainly got the message that it is fatal to mess with Ethiopia.

The war in Somalia is a proxi-war between Ethiopia and Eritrea. Our chronic problem is Isayas not only for Ethiopia but for the Horn of Africa. And Isayas is in powere because of Meles . So how can we get peace as far as this two diehard leaders are in power.

The EPRDF have worked hard to bring peace in the nation of Somalia. Ethiopia crushed the hard liners & bought the moderates from the jaws of the crook & incopetent gov't of Eritrea right to the peace table in Addis Ababa,isn't this a excellent work of the EPRDF? Yep! it is! The people of Somalia are an open people & this time the road is towards peace & proaperity of the east African Nations.

The magnificient leadership of Ethiopia led by his HE Prime minister Meles Zenawi is expected to expand its bussiness all over east Africa as soon as somalia established itself as a peaceful Nation. then the hard work of our gov't will pay of!

from now on Isaias can only be a trouble for his country & we will leave this upto Eritreans to takecare of their independent nation.

In my own thinking,I think Isaiasawiyan will evaporate as soon as peace is established in Somalia. I know He(Isaias) will try his best to disturb our peace but he will be sick of woyane for taking sheikh sherif to its side & he will go to hospital in the Arab nations & a total serenity will prevail in the whole east Africa. the Al shabab is going to loose a ground very soon.

JUST DEMARCATE THE ETHIO-ERITREA BORDER AND MOVE ON. I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THE SOMALIS WOULD BE HALF IN THEIR CURRENT POSTURE WITH OUT ERTRA'S PUSH. AND TPDM, EPPF, OLF, ONLF AFD...WILL SLOWLY GAIN IN CURRENCY AND POSE GREATER RISK IN NEAR FUTURE AS LONG AS THE PROXY WAR, COLD WAR, NO PEACE NO WAR, ECONOMIC WAR, PSYCOLOGICAL WAR, MEDIA WAR, DEPLOMATIC WAR, ALL OUT WAR... BETWEEN ETHIOPIA AND ERTRA STOPS. LEGALLY ETHIOPIA MUST WITHDRAW FROM OCCUPAID ERITREAN TERITORY. MELES SEEM TO BE SMART IN MANY WAYS, BUT COME TO THIS ISSUE ....I AM LOST FOR WORDS. IT IS SO DAMN OBVIOUS

Ethiopia invaded Somalia because of nothing except fulfilling command of US interest. I am so afraid to hear that Ethiopian solidiers shot mortars on civilians in Mogadisho and also losing lives of our solidiers.

Fina result: destablizing Somalia,since it was stable during UIC rule

Whatever you might be dreaming,Ethiopia was/is & remain the super power of our region. the problem in Somalia,in Eritrea & in many places is created by the rogue regime in Eritrea & it will go with it ones the Eritrean leader is deposed.

some of you are are talking about the UIC stabilized somalia.when did the UIC stabilized Somalia? first of all the UIC didn't even control the whole somalia! how did you come to conclude that Somalia was stabilized under the UIC rule? some of you here simply reflects you hate towards the all out success of the Gov't of the EPRDF.

Let me list some of the successes of our gov't>>>>

1) the EPRDF gov't created a vast infrastructure in Education,Agricalture,Technology ...
2)It lay the ground for Democratization,good governance and development eandovers.
3)It have defeated its enemies & brought its former adversaries like sheikh sherif,the former freedom fighters of Eritrea,the peace lovers of Qinijit like the UEDP-Medhin... denying the facts will never get you any victory rather your defeat after defeat will into the mud untill you can't fanction.

You cvan't even accept the hard work of our gov't who brought part of the UIC right from the door steps of the rogue regime of Asmara to the peace table in Addis Ababa? I swear to God you are blinded until you can't see the reality that everybody in the world is watching closely.

As a supporter of the EPRDF gov't ,I know the reality & your hate propaganda will never produce you anything. finally your hate towards our gov't will make you hate yourselves & I'm sorry for you that you can't see something visible!

If you think demarcation is the problem in Eritrea,Mr Gemechu , you are lost!

there is a press release that the EPLF released about Badme in the 1980/81 saying that "ELF is creating a problem with our neighbor Ethiopia by claiming a land that is not ours" it is still in the archive NEWS papers. the case is you can't creat a country over night like a mud house & by being a problem towards every neighboring country! Eritrea before even creating its own constitution said " I'm a black Israelite & everybody has to listen to me" we respect the independence of Eritrea but we can't take Eritrea's behavier as such! we know you are not real for what you are saying by using a name that doesn't belong to you. why don't you use a name that reflects your identity? you tried to look like Oromo,Tigrian or Amhara... it is not going to help you to be a black Israelit... get a life man!

I do not see and cost-benefit to Ethiopia by going to Somalia. The move of Ethiopia was wrong and I honestly do not see any gain from that. Ethiopia has lost many lives. Many innocent Somalian citizens died in the intervening period. Ethiopia spend alot of money to maintain its presence while its people are still dying hunger. I see the EPRDFITES say it was success. I do not honestly believe any Ethiopian politician will admit there has never been any bargain by going to Somalia. The conflict in Somalia which is a proxy of Meles Zenawi and Issays Afeworki has been only punishing the innocent Somalians and Ethiopians. The conflict still remains.

Strategically and tactically speaking, the policy prime minister Meles Zenawi has neither benefitted Eritrean, nor Ethiopia, or Ethiopian, nor Somalian, nor Djiboutian, nor Yemenis except the Tamil rebells in SriLanka and Alshab in Somalia.

ONLF, and many tens of Ethiopians rebels have been hatched by Issayas Afeworki. Even Meles Zenawi has hatched Afar Red Sea rebells which we hear these days. I do not think these policies are good to any Horn African people. It seems no leader in the horn of Africa in particular can reign without war around them. Meles Zenawi cannot reign without war. Issayas Afeworki cannot reign without war and both of them prefer to maintain war zones around them.

In general, Ethiopia has got no benefit at all. Ethiopia is actually a loser. Reasons:

1. Ethiopia the poorest country on earth is maintaining war zones around its northern frontiers. It has spent about $15 billion dollars to maintain the war in the north. That is alot of money which could have been used to do for other good jobs.
3. Ethiopians in the north live in constant fear of war which can flare any time and which means they have been living for 10 years in fear of war.
4. Ethiopia has spend about 13 billion dollars to buy ports from Dibouti and Sudan and these monies could have been used to do other good jobs.

5. Ethiopia is maintaining another war zone around the Somalia frontiers and we do not know how much monies has being spent around there.
6. Many Ethiopian civilians have been killed by Shabia ochestrated smart bombs, and have been witnessed in the heart of Ethiopia, Markato.

7. All these expenses continue on the people of Ethiopia while they are starving still.

The government is taking alot of loans from every corner and spending the money to maintain those war zones. I do not know when we will pay all these money the government is borrowing?

In conclusion, I see no benefit for Ethioians or the people of the east per se the policies of AtO Meles.

It is better not to have around than to live in wars. The Ethiopian political culture is backward still. There is little change yet. I do not know why we choose to do thing the hard way than the easy way.

We need real change, our people are not going to eat propaganda or hypocracy. Ethiopians still suffering, there is little change still. few people get rich overnight, but the majority of Ethiopians still continue to live covered by soil, died alive. Hypocractic propaganda will not help our people. I am not happy with the situation in Ethiopia. Ethiopia is once again ready for a revolution, may God change the way our people are living! I pray that God change the heart of our people.

Money will never change people, God can only change the heart of people.

Hey man,Ethiopia is better of now than ever unless you want to deny the reality at hand. all the time complain! all the time complain,ezi ny'Tiena aykonen! those in the gov't are the same citizen as you are! even better citizen than you! do you think our leaders are this foolish to simply go to war in Somalia? I don't know how you think man!

What the EPRDF is fighting the same fight that our ancestors fought for generations. the cause of our fights are Ethiopia's enemies which are some crook politicians from the western countries & the Arabs. the same for our envolvement in Somalia. stil the west & the Arabs! A ship will be hijacked to unload an ammo & military hardware around the Bab al mandeb & those who sent the military hardware will pay a cash as a salary for the terrorists willingly.

Mr Geza'ee, the reason our soldiers went into Somalia is: it is historical! any jihad in the middle east always touch Ethiopia until it is defeated,but I don't think you will understand this as you are emmersed in a hate towards our gov't!

Even though your writting seems "Halolow" to tell you the truth,there is only one revolution in Every country in the world. The French revolution,the scotland revolution,the American revolution,the Russian revolution,the chinese revolution...the Ethiopian revolution. as per you,the reason you are crying is because you are so corrupted & the TPLF rejected you & this is the only case you have & this is it!

The Ethiopian revolution errupted in 1966 Ethiopian calendar & TPLF & its partners in the EPRDF are the only entity who carried on the revolution & what Ethiopia need is some one who can continue what the EPRDF is doing in a better way.

Let me list for you how Ethiopia is getting better than ever:

1) Now any opposition can come in to Ethiopia & back where He/She come from with his/her life. in the pre-EPRDF no one can.
2)One can try to overthrow the gov't & can get a pardon & go back where he/she come from like the Qinijit.
3)Democratization,good governance & development eandovers are taking roots more than ever. education & health care are developing in parallel with everything.

4) As most of our people's life is based on farming,the way the farmers are leading their life is promising. farmers are clear now than before.

Mr Geza'ee, If you were given a chance,you could have been the worst Hypocratic person We/you have ever seen in life time. I know you concern! life is getting harder in the west & I can feel the pressure on your head to lead life this way you might have asked yourself how long is this kind of hard work to persist? that is what the EPRDF is teaching the Ethiopian people. If you were for Ethiopia, you could have stayed in the battlefield when there was no payment or fancy life,but now it is all occupied & I don't think the EPRDF can find you some space,too late!

What ‘s up Aiga

It’s always good to discuss with tolerance .
The war in Somalia is not appropriate from the beginning . This war was made by Isayas to make a proxy war with Ethiopia in Somalia land. And to make Ethiopia distract from its development progress. So its wise decision to withdraw but make sure you will not go back.
But we need our PM to work with people who are talented and skill in Economics , Business , Law, Accounting, and Agriculture sectors. That’s our problem now . There are not enough people with you working to develop Ethiopia. You do everything by yourself without consulting professionals in the field. You are the decisions maker , you are the executive, you are everything . That’s the main problem now we are facing . So one man can not be perfect. Unless he has bring the brightest people around him to help him do the job. One man has always a blind spot , he can’ t see everything .
Let me tell you two important example:
1. Ethiopia has been at war since it’s inception. The history of Ethiopia is the history of war. And still today we are at war even at it’s worst condition. We have more than 400,000 thousand soldiers at the north ready to go to war. As well as in the east . Still the so called OLF and ONLF are running here and there to destabilized the country . We lose our natural port for the sake of peace but still we didn’t achieve peace .
2. Most importantly , in the world now famine (hunger) is history. Leaders make hunger history. By using different farming mechanism. By using intensive or extensive farming methods. Changing the traditional farming system to mechanization . But amazingly in Ethiopia still we are bagging food to eat. Our children are still dying in hunger. Every year four to five million people are hungry lack of food. Ethiopia is the only African country to be dependant in food aid. Until today we can’t feed ourselves. WHY???
So to materialized my comment of course EPDRF has done a lot of good job’s in terms of infrastructure no one can ‘t deny the big progress going on in the country. But still PM has to allow people who can participate in developing the country . One man can not finish the job . Ethiopia has a complex problem.
Thanks’ aiaga

I just don't understand what in a hell can some one destroy a house saying that he will build a better one and come up with exactly the same one? This is exactly what the US and Ethiopia have done in Somalia. And remember we were told that the UIC was destroyed and Ethiopian troops would be back in a few weeks time. And later they said it will take time untill the islamists are destroyed. And then the said Ethiopia couln't continue in Somalia paying big prices. They also used the term mission accomplished to look like their boss Bush. Which mission is accomplished? They replaced UIC with TFG then back to UIC. Is this the mission they have accomplished?

Mr. Sherif, you said it all and Thank you for telling the truth nothing but the truth.

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History Class...
The unjust war in Somalia is lost!We Ethiopians gained nothing,absolutely nothing from the war!By invading Somalia Prime Minister Meles(Yohanes V) repeated the historic blunder committed by Emperor Yohanes IV who invaded a sister black African country-Sudan just to facilitate the British imperial ambition in the the area.
In short,our ill-fated involvement in Somalia clearly witnesses that we do not have any independent foreign policy.It is as if we are all on a bus with out breaks and the driver is also very drunk like the legendary artist Fantu Mandoye...
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I think the somalia war is historical & the action of our gov't is an appropriate one.the war helped us to bring the peace loving in the Islamic court into the peace table in Addis Ababa. I don't understand how & why you are not getting the success that our leaders & Soldiers brought to the peace loving people in our region. the only individuals of the Islamic court left behind are these extremist in Asmara & most of them are wanted by the international community. Bringing the leader of the Islamic courts who sworn to destroy Ethiopia into the round table to talk about peace is one of the biggest successes of our leaders & Soldiers.

the reason that you don't want to see the successes of our leaders & soldiers is: you or the politicians that you follow must be at the Arat killo palace & you can see then.Whatsoever there is no truth in your discussions & you won't succeed in your intentions to deny the facts.

Do you remember when the Derg was telling the Ethiopian people? It use to say the TPLF even were not human beings. They were animals with large heads and a tail. In this 21st century there are some people in Aiga forum who would like to make us believe similar information. For instance Eritreans believe they are black Isralite. Cut the crap and get real. Those people who write such things are the people who are always a source of hatered and obstacle to peace. Do you know what woyane tells other African governments about Eritreans. Eritreans Don't believe they are Africans. By the way such information is also conveyed to black American officials several times. My mother is from Eritrea and My father from Ethiopia. I think I am the right person to see the ill deeds of some igrnorant people from both sides. If we can not say to those people enough is enough then we are lost for ever.

Mr Damo,all I wrote is a reality & still on the Archive. I didn't write from my own creation! that is what they said.I you felt sour because of you are partly an Eritrean I can't help it. If part of you is a Tigrian fromEritrea & the other part a Tigrian from Ethiopia then both part of your families are a Tigrean.it doesn't make a difference you are all one like myself. I don't think Eritrea feel different than they are Africans! what i wrote is directly from their own mouth,therefore don't feel sour about my article bro. I never believe that Eritreans are different than Ethiopians,it is simply the making of our enemies. cheers

Time to get real. Somalis have been fighting each other for more than 10 years now. The source of the problem is because they subscribe to tribal politics. The reason the UIC prevailed in 2006 over the tribal politics was because it is based on religion, which is the core issue that unites all Somalis. Hence it might be odd to say it but it is only an Islamic givernment that could have the chance to unite all somalis. We might not like to hear this but one way or the other it will happen soon. So although the election of Shik Sheriff is a historical event to somalis I am affraid that it will fall short of uniting them.

Time to get real on Ethiopia-Eritrea.

Isaias started the border war to stay in power by taking Eritreans hostage through military rule. Before he started the war he was facing internal pressure to move Eritrea to multi party system. He went back to his old philosophy that if you want to keep a country and a population hostage you need to put them under the contro of the Army. he started the war and so far it is working for him. It is working because Melese lacked the courage to accept the EBBC decision. Melese rejection of the decision has nothing to do with the decsisions content it is based on the fear that Tigreans will abondened him and he will have trouble staying in power in one form or the other. The right thing to do is accept the EEBC rule and turn the Eritrean againist Isaias. If not Isaias has a reason to stay in power for ever and that is given by melese.

Dr Berhanu -one of the intelegent person I have never seen in my life, I know that you don't like him becuse you are denkoro.

Can someone tell me why Ethiopia stuck with Yusuf for so long? Clearly it was evident that he did not want to compromise because he wouyld have to abandon his dream of restoring the Darood properties in Mogadisho. Why stick with him so long until the others became totally bitter against us? Of course now its doing its best to apease the Heywee clan.

Azeb,

You need to post excerpt and followed by the link for long articles you want to share with readers. Long articles kind of make it hard to follow the discussion. Okay, Thanks

To all,

You can forward us a topic you want to discuss also!!!

If anything comes about Birtukan Medkesa, I will share with your readers including Meles and Bereket.

To walta and Aiga, You guys are consumed about Eritrea economic crisis, people are leaving the country in thousends and so on. You have been talking over 10yrs bad news about Eritrea. The way you portray the country could not have existed for 3months. Now, Eritrea is 18yrs old. Please give sense for your story. I know it's beyond your imagination, Eritrea is marching against all odds. Is it not amazing with all those treats from Jandy F big fat ass and other powers, Eritrea is still a nightmare to Woyane.
No country gave a chance to the UIC when they were driven out by US proxy war, it was Eritrea. Now Sharif said, Eritrea don't mess up in our country. This is the same thing happened when Shabia brought Woyane to Arat kilo behaved the same way like Sharif. Anyway, Sharif or Woyane going to be history.

Kibrom,

Ertrea's economic problems are real. If it wasn't for loyal and nationalistic Eritreans who live abroad the Eritrean Economy could colapse within a month. Similarly if the donors stop giving Ethiopia millions of dollars and Euros then the Ethiopian economy will colapse over night as well. So it is not realistic for TPLF and Shaebia to talk about economy. Because they do not have an economy. However there is another way to look at it. If Ethiopia and Eritrea could make peace then both of them could spend the money they are spending on arms to feed the poor. What ever the source of the money is Ethiopia could save a lot of money from port services. Above all if the border problem is solved then the next generation could live in peace and the enemity could subside easily. Although Eritrea is suffering right now it could be out of poverty soon. It is discovering its minerals and that could be in use in a couple of years. If Ethiopia could make peace with Eritrea then the breewing trouble in Ogaden and somalia could subside aswell. So looking at the benefits then peace is better than war.

More people fleeing Eritrea means more money will come to Eritrea. So it is not bad for shaebia. It is a souce of income.

Meles has defeated his ememies one by one since he was in the bush namely : EDU, ELF, EPRP,Me'eson,(lead by Haile Fida),DERG,OLF,ONLF,and now KInjit,So who is next ?Guess the next will be EPLF or SHABIA (ISAYAS)Give time he will show you. The only leader whe can solve Ethiopian problem is MELES! Believe it or not .Time will tell!!

Amde, You are in denial or you are in a day dream. If Melese could not defeat Alshab, what makes you think he will defeat The lion of Nakfa. I want you to be honest, Melese had the backing of the Bush adminstration and other western powers because he is their puppet. If he knew he is going to destroy Shabia he could have done it long time ago but it is obvious to everybody, he can't, it will be his demise. Be truthful,you are fooling yourself. Melese can deceive foolish like you.

Prime minister Meles attends the Indian sustainable development summit:

It is a very sad reality to see the very deceitful, bling bling and naive Ethiopian leader here and there just for the sake of legitmizing himself than the cause he alleges to portray.This is the reality.

The Kyoto protocol was signed in 1997 by 37 countries while Ethiopia ratified it in 2005.The purpose as all know is to engage developed (Annex I)& developing (Non Annx)countries in cooperative mood. It lays foundation for the later to develope in a clean manner than buisiness as usual and in return is given the market for trading its emission reductions.The former provides technology & purchases the emissions reduction credits from the devloping to meet its cap.Moreover adaptation funds are arranges for the developing ones to cope with the hazards of the changing climate.

The sad reality is , Ethiopia and similar countries didnt develop and such projects but kept on rhetorics by their spooky leaders.On the other hand India, china, south America,north & south Africa made efforts and marketed about 2 billion credits from 1500 projects.More over they are ready with a robust plan to spend the expected adaptation fund.(readers can see this reaity from www.unfccc.org)

The Irony is, the leaders of the effective nations keeep quite and do practical steps while leaders of countries like Ethiopia are on tour to show their naive stance on climate change.They present their "Jebdegna" yet propaganda type , spontaneous requests like "let the developed compensate for the global warming".In the first place, it is not now and is very late to raise these issues.It has passed in kyoto negotiations!Our negotiators , who happen to be dull assignees slept of their DSA's, lost meetings and even in those they attend they understand nothing of whatever is being discussed on the global table.I have attended all global negotiations on webcast live and it is a shame to be an Ethiopian.

Locally, there is no policy structure to engage the society , the public institutions & private sector on any adaptation or mitigation exercises. There is a serious misunderstanding by Ethiopian policy makers about terms & concepts being used by international stakeholders in the climate.

The participation by Mr Meles....is realy symboloic and every body who knows the matter weel knows he is just naive but can use the media to portray him as "climate scientist" even when we already lost much of the negotiation ground & market.The sad reality is...India through this sumit in Delhi, wants to rally every poor around itself as "developing" to avaoid its removal from being an innicent country from the point of view of GHG emissions.They are wise for themselves but I think we can be too if we focus on reality than do things for the sake of narrow domestic politics.In copenhagen,no developed country would want to treat India,china & others in same basket as sub saharan frica. Apparently,I think PM Meles wants too put us as "Developing" as China & india. the consequence is...we lose the last negotiation ground in copenhagen.Let us tell him....we are "under developing".And moreover, the average Ethiopian expects a real,practical,measurable progress on the ground than a propaganda about "PM Meles said this met that" empty story.

Our world today is , unfourtunately , full of lunatics whose vision and perception lies on the destruction of society regardless of borders. As we read from messages posted here , it is easier for some one to realize how ecvery one of us have perceived Ethiopia's effort in Somalia differently.

How on earth can we not see the potential danger associated with the radical Islamists of Somalia . Do we not know as to where the radicalist acquire their arms and ammunitions ? or is it just a case that we do not give a toss , where the links are coming from . Let us think big and large . The topic we are dealing with is country and not party politics.

It is , therefore ,I personally believe , our defence forces had acted on the information gathered prior to the proxy war that had been orchesterated by the Eritrean govt . It does not take a rocket scientist to understand the nature of military intelegence now a day . That was not a fiction but instead a well known fact that had been proved to be right , time and again by different sources, including the Western media .

It might be regarded as an un popular move by some but to me , it is once again , a job well done by our defence forces . I also argue that our defence forces acted not only courgeously ; but also have managed to show the rest of the world how they are well mannered , disciplined,capable of combat and most of all the fact that they have become the force to be reckon with . In case of future need ; to maintain peace and tranquality ; in any part of the world for that matter ; our forces have shown their readiness and will un doubtly be there to do the right job . So every one chin up and big it up to our big boys . I am done for now .

Finally,Somalia will be peaceful country. what will happen in Somalia will be what the people of Somalia wants in their life not what some ill individuals wanted to do for their individual intention. The Somali people needs a serenity in their life.Somalians are asking themselves what's wrong with us? one language one religion one people! don't we be an example to the world as we are a people with the least cause of conflict? time for Somalis to see forward & seek a better life for the somali people.
May God bless our region!

Let us discuss

1. who is responsible for the ill invasion of Somalia and wasteful loss of ethiopian soldiers.

2. Why did we loss our maritime coast and Assab and expose Ethiopia to a future greater danger who is responsible for this harm?

Thx.

First of all,It is not a wasteful war,istead it is historical , an appropriate & timely action of the Ethiopian defease forces.

Secondly, Ethiopia will never be in danger whether is has lost its costal lines or not. The coastal lines of Ethiopia was used by the Bourgioussie of Addis Ababa! at this time the real danger for Ethiopia is: the power hungry diaspora politicians. the real time that Ethiopia lost its coastal lines were during Emperor Menelik. History tells us that Menelik was whispering secrets with the Italian facsist for the purpose of weakening Yohannes & finally Menelik agreed to cede Eritrea to Italy. this is the time when Ethiopia have lost its coastal lines. Don't you think so?

Recently I heard Ethiopia is going to get morethan 400 million dollars from the US and 250 million Euro from Europe. The surprising thing is ethiopia has been on the payroll of the western nations since its inception. Some ignorant people in Aiga also say Eritrea is in economic crisis. One thing they don't know is Eritrea is self reliant and Ethiopia is a begger. How can a begger claim that his neighbour who works hard and eats his own fruits is hungry while the begger is waiting for others to give him food that he never worked for. I think something is wrong with ethiopians and the ethiopian leadership. They believe the west has an obligation to give them food an money to live. Worse than that they use that begged money to buy arms and kill innocent somalians. What is the difference between a begger in marcato and the Ethiopian government. The answer is nothing. I don't think you understand what I mean. Please listen to the following video and learn to be reasoned and avoid inferiority complex. Ethiopia has to stop from being the shame of Africa.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/audio/2009/feb/06/aid-africa-dambisa-moyo

Yasin and Salih, die hard Woyane supporters. You said this world full is of Lunatics. Do you know that those who have mental problems call other healthy people call Lunatic. Check yourself with a psychitrist. Bus yes man Meles invade the country for his survival to just satisfy his boss this is no seret to the world. with this madness invading a country, if you consider this is to bring peace to Somali people, it shows your stupidity. Every major news media in the world stated, "The US proxy war made it worse the situation in Somalia. It's the worest humanitarian crisis in the world at this time. Women raped and religious leaders slit their throat like animal. After all these savage crimes, you are telling us our government is doing its best to bring peace to Somali people. This shows your Lunatic behavior. Do you remember what happend to Hawzen, this is the worest crime Melese did to Somali people. Mengistu paid a price for a crime he comitted and take my word what goes around comes around.

Wow!!!!!!!!!!

Did you see the Eritrean girls photo at Aiga. I am really thrilled to see the heroin Eritrean girls following the foot steps of the lions of Nakfa. Aiga thought such photo is a sign of stress. It shows how Aiga is disturbed by the strong message of the photo. Every Eritrean is ready not only to defend his/her country but also to make the country free from begging. As I said before Ethiopia is a country of beggers. Not only the people but also the government. In Eritrea the meassage is " Nihena b Sirena". That is what the photo is all about.No mattter how the environment inhoptitable it is, it is the resposnibility of its people to make it useful to its people. Don't beg, work hard and feel proud of what you can produce with what you have. What a strong message!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.

What ever you say about Eritrea, Eritrea is marching. You keep barking and you continue to be begger with your chronic problem. I wonder to these Congenital liars, check the media talks everyday starvation in Ethiopia, with every help it gets no end insight for the poverty to go away. Sad story, the biggest problem in Ethiopia is, since its creation, it did not have a leader who loves his country or visionary. Every leader which we have seen in our life time and read in history, either tribalist or greedy. Leave Eritrea alone. Eritrea is gone for good.
If we did not have Sawa, We know what would have happened. We know You very well, vicious monster which you don't have regard for humanity.

Recently I heard Ethiopia is going to get more than 400 million dollars from the US and 250 million Euro from Europe. The surprising thing is Ethiopia has been on the payroll of the western nations since its inception. Some ignorant people in Aiga also say Eritrea is in economic crisis. One thing they don't know is Eritrea is self reliant and Ethiopia is a beggar. How can a beggar claim that his neighbor who works hard and eats his own fruits is hungry while the beggar is waiting for others to give him food that he never worked for. I think something is wrong with Ethiopians and the Ethiopian leadership. They believe the west has an obligation to give them food and money to live. Worse than that they use that begged money to buy arms and kill innocent Somalis. What is the difference between a beggar in marcato and the Ethiopian government. The answer is nothing. Wow !!!!!! Did you see the Eritrean girls photo at Aiga. I am really thrilled to see the heroin Eritrean girls following the foot steps of the lions of Nakfa. Aiga thought such photo is a sign of stress. It shows how Aiga is disturbed by the strong message of the photo. Every Eritrean is ready not only to defend his/her country but also to make the country free from begging. As I said before Ethiopia is a country of beggars. Not only the people but also the government. In Eritrea the massage is " Nihena b Sirena". That is what the photo is all about. No matter how the environment inhospitable it is, it is the responsibility of its people to make it useful to its people. Don't beg, work hard and feel proud of what you can produce with what you have. What a strong message!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.Eritrea is a model to all africa.

Mr Keysi,Self reliant? I wish you were! the young people of Eritrea in Sawa are showing their distress & they are looking for a change! their general question isn't about Ethiopia or the enmity between Ethiopia & Eritrea. If you can understand,the Sawa trainees are asking to restore Eritrea into the rule of law. Mr Keysi, read all the question that the Sawa trainees raised! they are expressing that the Eritrean sociopolitical economy is going down spiral & why? why there is no justice in Eritrea? why the G15? who is the cause of the problem in East Africa? who is the problem for Eritrea? the questions was asked by Eritreans & you need to reflect their question as they are. they are not talking about that Ethiopia is begging & Eritrea isn't! but they are talking about the situation in Eritrea specifically. we are not talking about anchuwa halefet dmu ta'anqefet. if you are cencerned,please reflect their concern directly so you can get alife.

Yasisn,

You are missing the whole point. Eritreans need to defend themselves because Ethiopia rejected the EEBC binding decsision and it is threatening Eritrea with invasion. I don't know about Ethiopia but in Eritrea when a court tells you something does not belong to you and you need to return it to the right owner then you need to do what the counrt wants you to do. What about if your neighbour said no and the court does not have the power to enforce it. Then you need to make your self ready to make sure your proporty is not lost for ever. That is what the Core issue you are missing. Eritreans have a job to do and they need to prepare for it. As to the internal matters they are created by the illegal occupation of Sovereign Eritrean territories by the minority government in Ethiopia. Once Eritreans get their territories back they will create a conducive environment to domocratic transistion. For now they have to do what they need to do. If you are concerend about Eritreans then you should ask your governement to remove its army from Eritrean territories and respect the territorial integrity of Eritrea.

First of all,the Ethiopian army is on its own soil.secondly,as you believe Ethiopia is you colony,then you need to accept Ethiopia's term as your colonial master.

All you said here is the propaganda used by your gov't as an excuse to hide the facts,but the core issues are different ones.

Independent commission means independent. Ethiopia isn't going to cede any land if it isnot willing to do so. this is a fact that we are going to see. Ethiopia needs more from you than you need from Ethiopia,this is also to be seen in the future.

The core issue of this have you say is about Somalia. we might have to talk about your issue on its own topic.

As far as the reality indicates, Ethiopia has struggled to win over the peace lover of Somalia & has done it successfully. for your reference,you can read what the Islamic sourt leader has said in the African union summit. this can proof you that Ethiopia has attained the power to kick the asses of its enemies & separete the bad apples & bring the peace lover into the peace table in Addis Ababa.

If you keep propageting the propaganda of of your gov't to hide the facts,then nobody is going to listen to you.

Eritreans are witnessing that Ethiopia isn't their enemy but a country that embraces them in their bad times. Eritreans who are going through Ethiopia to foreighen countries looking for a better opportunities can be my witness for my reasoning. these Eritreans are going to be part of the rebuilding of Eritrea when chances emerge.

please do not brag about border as it isn't the core issue.

Thank you

Yasin,

When i read your line of reasoning I am inclinded to believe that you are woyane propagandist. Your point of argument is forget the border issue and let's focus on what is happening in eritrea. I can tell you that is a wrong strategy to convince Eritreans. The border is the source of the current situation in Eritrea.If woyane wants to solve this problem by establishing refugee camps and inviting western powers to take feew people from here and there then who don't want to go to America or Europe. Did you read the news that 750 Ethiopians reached Yemen last week? The point is people always immigrate. Especially when there is war immigration increases. One thing you don't know is when the refugees in shimbelba reach the western world then they pay 2% for their country. The message is clear. Ethiopia should leave Eritrean territory. If not then you will live burning from all directions.

Please don't respond. I am done with you.

As to the question what Ethiopia has benefited in intervening in settling the Somalia crisis; on my part I would answer it is prematured. The Somali crisis is still in its fluid state in terms of its political instability, social unrest, religious divisions,ethinical or clanish rivalries etc.. No political scientist can confidently predict the unpredictable situation of Somalia. No body knows exactly where Somalia is heading to.In our historical epoch, Somalia is unique and it is not governed within the parameter of societal laws and Intergovermental relationships.I would not say much why Somalia is unique and the situation in Somalia is unpredictable.Therefore the intervention of Ethiopia in resolving the prevailing socio-political crisis in Somalia should be appraised and appreciated not in terms of its short term effects but it should be seen in terms of its long run impacts and the changes that might be introduced as a result of such involvement.AS to the question what is the future of Somalia under the newly elected president Shiek Ahmed Sherif? It is true the quality of leadership is important but it is not the determining factor in resolving civil war and societal strife.You need determined communal leaders and principled organisation that lead the nation up to the desired goals and objectives.Practically Somalia lacks these essential factors.Therefore the newly elected president might minimise the side effects of the crisis that has been engulfing Somalia from time time nevertheless it could not create stability by overnight. Somalia has still a long way to go. AS to the question what should be the role of Ethiopia in assisting Somalia from now on wards? Ethiopia might not remain indifferent to the worsening situation of Somalia.The most important tool and ways of involvement of Ethiopia in Somalia affairs should be mainly based only and only on politics, diplomacy and intelligence. Hard militarily involvement should be minimised and if possible it should be avoided.We should be in tune with modern world demands and situations.Even for worse or better Emperor Haile Sellasie or Mengstu had played more politics in handling the chllenges and war hazards posed by Siad Barre. Therefore Ethiopia should show more of its political superiority than militarily with less cost and sacrifice. As to the question what would be the role of Eritrea vis-a-vis the newly elected president of Somalia? Eeitrea will always challenge where ever Ethiopia's presence is significant and influential. Eritrea will continue to support the extremist like Aweys to destablise Somalia and our region the Horn of Africa as a whole.By any means the present regime of Eritrea will not get rest until it brings about the collapse of the Ethiopian government and the disintegration of the Ethiopian multi-national state.Eritria did not and would not have any claim on the Somali state but its present involvement in the country is to use its land as a stepping ground to carry out destablising activities in Ethiopia. Recently Eritrea has turned its National TV service for political propoganda for 24 hours against Ethiopia.The regime uses Amharic as its official language and as a weapon to disseminate hatred against the Ethiopian government.Even at present if Mr Gaddafi attempts to persuade the Eritrean regime to come back to some sort of negotiation or settlement with regard the unsettled border issue with the Ethiopian government, it will outrighly reject it. Even furtherly if Badme as a whole is given to Eritrea, the present regime in Eritrea would not be satisfied to cease from interfering either in Somalia or would not stop from its counter activities of destablising Ethiopia.What is the way out? On my part I would say politics has to be played prominently and significantly. It is not enough and lasting to devise coup d'etat but genuine indigenius Eritrean have to be involved in matured and orgnised manner to resolve the unsettled border issues and other related issues.
Thank you,
Debekulu

When I reviewed the opinion written in in this forum I learned that there are many peace loving Ethiopians and Eritreans. Here is the summary of the main arguements. Offcourse ignoring Keysi and Yasin:

1. Ethiopia should allow demarcation to continue.
2. Eritrea should allow Ethiopia to use its ports. Any disagreement on port use should be resolved through discussion mediated by a third party. Eritrea should not take unilaterial measures.

3. Both Ethiopia and Eritrea should stop interferring in the others internal affairs and should cease supporting armed groups.

4. To solve remaining issues Ethiopia and Eritrea should negotiate as two equal nations.

Peace.

Debekulu, with your statement you pretend as professional and outside writer. You are part and parcel of Aiga Misinformation member. Why do you say the invasion of the Ethiopian gov't into Somalia should be appreciated. How wonder you try to deceive when the world with clear language stated, the proxy/Ethiopina invasion caused the worest humanitarain crisis in the world. How can you refute this fact and trying your criminal/puppet gov't action to defend and to be appreciated. It shows how you don't have respect for humanity. Don't blame Eritrea for all your failure. 17yrs. ago Woyane had great respect for Shabia for its good job to put place them at Arat kilo. After sometime when you felt comfortable governing Ethiopia you attacked Eritrea and attempted to reverse the sovereignty, it failed miserably. Let me ask you, Woyane tried hard to over throw the gov't, militarly, diplomatically, and by buying sold out Eritreans by creating division among Eritreans all failed. Some times don't you wonder how Shabia is strong and becoming a nightmare for woyane.
Last but not least there will not be peace in the horn of Africa unless Woyane respected the TRRRITOIAL INTEGRITY OF ERITREA. Don't be surprissed Woynae will accept the EEBC verdict without ifs and buts.
There is no way Eritrea has an interest in the disentegration of Ethiopia. If that was the case in 1991 could have been done. Don't try to twist the realities.

....after almost two decades of war and destruction,and with no functioning government, somalia has now seems to get to the right track...yes sherif is capable of not only improving...but also reversing the present situation in somalia...he has strong support in both USC and alshbab factions as well as the majority of the somali people.the alshabab group has nothing for somalia,it s ...no man made constituion under the sun...bla bla ...is just a cover for its real aim...i.e to keep the chaos and misery in somalia going on.

I think Ethiopia's enemies are still trying to runaway from the core issue of our regions problem. some of them are wishing Somalia not to attain peace for their own greedy savage interests.

What you need to understand is: Ethiopia is growing no matter what it's enemies are cooking.

"Torritorial integrity of Eritrea" this issue was cooked by your leaders when Ethiopia started to stop the looting by the Eritrean leaders as a cover up for their failure. this is something that you can never cover.the individual G-15 tried to speak up about your gov't proxy stuffs but was silenced in brutality. atleast these G-15 have a children & they will speak up one day when time comes!

anyways,go ahead & check the Dekebat web sight & you will understand how savage your leaders are! from Congo/Kinshasa/ To yemen,Sudan,Djibutti,Ethiopia... no deviation can work for you at all! you might have understood sofar & I think this is your last trial to propaget your lies,fibs & decption to disintegret Ethiopia & to repress the Eritrean society. If you tried to disintegret Ethiopia in 1991, you could have lost you independence imediately. you always brag about what you can do but you never consider what your adversaries can do. this is why it has been ten years since your evil dream failed to doom.

Border is a proxy propaganda! you know why your leaders like to cook a proxy stuffs? because they dreamed beyond their ability & finally they failed to control their intentions & they are in disarray now.

Please go ahead & read Awate.Dekebat & other web sights that doesn't lie about the situation in Eritrea ,which is their country. why there is no right of assembly in Eritrea? tens of thousands paid their life for the freedom of Eritrea & end up in no rights whatsoever. what we are talking about is the reality not the proxy & fake reality that your leaders created!

All I can say now is: emba'ar kes haqikhum, hasot haqi khoynu kiserih entekhi'elu nr'ee! Ezi hizbi Eritrea zri'o zelo sle'zkhone bzuh zechaqachiq yeblnan. Haqi shefinka gin zrikeb neger kemzeyele kulu tarikh yimiskir. good luck with your lies,fibs & deceptions... what you are missing is: Ethiopia as a historical country will never let you go unpunished for your underestimation.

Awet nkhulu hizbi east Africa

I agree with Keysi:

You are missing the whole point. Eritreans need to defend themselves because Ethiopia rejected the EEBC binding decsision and it is threatening Eritrea with invasion. I don't know about Ethiopia but in Eritrea when a court tells you something does not belong to you and you need to return it to the right owner then you need to do what the counrt wants you to do. What about if your neighbour said no and the court does not have the power to enforce it. Then you need to make your self ready to make sure your proporty is not lost for ever. That is what the Core issue you are missing. Eritreans have a job to do and they need to prepare for it. As to the internal matters they are created by the illegal occupation of Sovereign Eritrean territories by the minority government in Ethiopia. Once Eritreans get their territories back they will create a conducive environment to domocratic transistion. For now they have to do what they need to do. If you are concerend about Eritreans then you should ask your governement to remove its army from Eritrean territories and respect the territorial integrity of Eritrea.

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